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=== Microformats Possibilties =

Discussed today 3/39/07 with TantekCelic in IRC

(from IRC Logs):

[17:53:52] <SamRose> I see the draft for re-payment, but I also wonder if anyone is thinking about something like "rel-pledge" for money pooling?

[18:02:03] <tantek> SamRose, can you find examples on the web of people pledging money but not paying it? E.g. in blog posts?

[18:06:20] <SamRose> tantek: actually, the example that I would give would be in a wiki. Although, a blog post could be fine. I am thinking about where people are raising funds, as you see in fundable and similar sites. But, allowing people to carry on these pledging activities outside of the fundable-type silos

[18:35:57] <SamRose> tantek: sorry for disappearing, battery ran out....example of pledging on wiki pages in the wild: http://www.communitywiki.org/en/CommunityWikiBank

[18:39:50] <tantek> Sam, that's an interesting example. Perhaps you could start http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples with that URL, and also describe there the problem you think would be solved if such information was automatically discoverable and parseable. See http://microformats.org/wiki/process for more details.

[18:39:57] <SamRose> tantek: also an example in french http://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wikidev.cgi?FR/Tontine (scroll down and see where people are pledging euros)
[18:40:10] <SamRose> tantek: sure
[18:40:28] <SamRose> tantek: thanks for your feedback

(end IRC log quote)

Next steps:

1. Discuss among our group to refine the idea.

2. Create http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples page, and explain problems were trying to solve.

3. ....

Context notes: Using microformats is promising, because it could allow a proposed P2PMoney tool to parse data from any web content that supports the format. So, if ProWiki, MediaWiki, OddMuse, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, Drupal, or any other web CMS or collaboration space supports the microformat, even many different blogs, then discussion and pledges can all happen organically in one place. Or, pledging can happen across many communities and tools that want to collaborate. Similarly, rel-payment, or perhaps a more specific microformat, could be used track revenue sharing, perhaps via "rel-task". It's possible that "rel-expense" could also exist for tracking expense numbers. All of the data would be parsed by the P2PMoney application in this case. This may actually be one of the quickest ways to create a tool that can be used in many different online environments.


Even if these do not become "official" microformats, they could still be used to create a decentralized P2P money tracking system. This idea still needs a lot more brainstorming and discussion by our group to see if we are collectively interested in pursuing.

Thanks to Felix Klee for inspiring this idea with his post at the BarCampBank google group.


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Table of Contents
Introduction   
Current P2PMoney Questions   
Microformats Possibilties   
Methods for providing answers   
On-site answer section   
Discussion   

Introduction    

This is an OrganizedInquiry for the P2PMoney project.

At it's core, an OrganizedInquiry is:

  1. Creating a core set of questions to focus research

  2. Contextualizing the research as answers to those questions

We try to put the answers in CommunityWiki:PlainTalk

Current P2PMoney Questions    

Basic question:

  • "Are you part of a virtual community and do you feel a need for pooling financial resources or sharing revenues? If yes, what solutions are you currently using for achieving this?"

More technical/specific question:

  • "What technology currently exists that resembles our P2P money requirements at P2PMoney, and how does it function?"

Tags for these questions

In order for your research to be seen, please add these tags, along with any others you'd like, and please state in the notes how what you are linking to answers the above question.On ma.gnolia, join the BarCampBank group, and copy links to that group as well. Thanks!

Online places where these question have been asked:

Basic question:

  • "Do you participate in a project that could use a platform implementing payment pooling and revenue sharing?"

More technical/specific question:

  • "Who is interested in P2PMoney oriented concepts, and how exactly does their interest resonate with our current requirements at P2PMoney?"

Tags for these questions

In order for your research to be seen, please add these tags, along with any others you'd like, and please state in the notes how what you are linking to answers the above question. On ma.gnolia, join the BarCampBank group, and copy links to that group as well. Thanks!

Online places where these questions have been asked:

Tags for this question:

Online places where this question has been asked:

Microformats Possibilties    

Discussed today 3/39/07 with TantekCelic in IRC

(from IRC Logs):

[17:53:52] <SamRose> I see the draft for re-payment, but I also wonder if anyone is thinking about something like "rel-pledge" for money pooling?

[18:02:03] <tantek> SamRose, can you find examples on the web of people pledging money but not paying it? E.g. in blog posts?

[18:06:20] <SamRose> tantek: actually, the example that I would give would be in a wiki. Although, a blog post could be fine. I am thinking about where people are raising funds, as you see in fundable and similar sites. But, allowing people to carry on these pledging activities outside of the fundable-type silos

[18:35:57] <SamRose> tantek: sorry for disappearing, battery ran out....example of pledging on wiki pages in the wild: http://www.communitywiki.org/en/CommunityWikiBank

[18:39:50] <tantek> Sam, that's an interesting example. Perhaps you could start http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples with that URL, and also describe there the problem you think would be solved if such information was automatically discoverable and parseable. See http://microformats.org/wiki/process for more details.

[18:39:57] <SamRose> tantek: also an example in french http://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wikidev.cgi?FR/Tontine (scroll down and see where people are pledging euros) [18:40:10] <SamRose> tantek: sure [18:40:28] <SamRose> tantek: thanks for your feedback

(end IRC log quote)

Next steps:

1. Discuss among our group to refine the idea.

2. Create http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples page, and explain problems were trying to solve.

3. ....

Context notes: Using microformats is promising, because it could allow a proposed P2PMoney tool to parse data from any web content that supports the format. So, if ProWiki, MediaWiki, OddMuse, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, Drupal, or any other web CMS or collaboration space supports the microformat, even many different blogs, then discussion and pledges can all happen organically in one place. Or, pledging can happen across many communities and tools that want to collaborate. Similarly, rel-payment, or perhaps a more specific microformat, could be used track revenue sharing, perhaps via "rel-task". It's possible that "rel-expense" could also exist for tracking expense numbers. All of the data would be parsed by the P2PMoney application in this case. This may actually be one of the quickest ways to create a tool that can be used in many different online environments.

Even if these do not become "official" microformats, they could still be used to create a decentralized P2P money tracking system. This idea still needs a lot more brainstorming and discussion by our group to see if we are collectively interested in pursuing.

Thanks to Felix Klee for inspiring this idea with his post at the BarCampBank google group.

Methods for providing answers    

  1. Method1: You can write your answers on your own community sites and mark the pages with the corresponding tags above.

  2. Method2: You can write your answers on the answer section below

  3. Method3: You can answer in the corresponding thread on our BarCampBank Google Group
    1. Question 1: Are you part of a virtual community and do you feel a need for pooling financial resources or sharing revenues? If yes, what solutions are you currently using for achieving this?
    2. Question 2: Do you participate in a project that could use a platform implementing payment pooling and revenue sharing?
    3. Question 3: If you are not satisfied with current solutions, what are the key features that are missing?

On-site answer section    

Discussion    

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